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Sunday, 29 November 2009

See what Alan the union chief got for you cabin crew.

SGN COP Days 1,2 & 3 - (05 Nov 09)
Changes have been made to the SGN Long Transit COPs.
Previously, there are 2 SGN patterns on these days which operates with a transit of 5 hours each.
In Winter09 these COPs have been changed to one pattern doing a Day-Layover and the other pattern operating a Turn-Around.
Crew Operating SQ172 on these days will
layover for 9 hours with hotel rooms provided and then operate SQ 185 out in the evening while crew operating SQ178 will Turn-Around on SQ173.
Crew operating SQ172 on these days
will get location meal allowance, turn-Around allowance and 2.5 times IFA payable towards the scheduled flight time.


Before this the SGN pattern was like shit! For more click http://www.siasu-cabincrewbranch.org.sg/cabin_crew.htm

35 comments:

eddy said...

BT u must be allan's lackey.

Bola said...

Aiyah from last time he like that !Wind blow where He go where loh !

ah ahia said...

At least Allan did more things for cc in general than shortie who only help the ifs.

Anonymous said...

Yes right to the point!!

Anonymous said...

all this union crap is a waste of time lah, keep the $9 monthly for your food... ntuc is all linked to the PAP aka lau lee.

Anonymous said...

Yes.Wifout lau lee, yr family will all be labourers and waiting to be exported to other country, like all the banglas.S'pore is wat it is today because of lau lee.

Lau tan said...

Anonymous said...
Yes.Wifout lau lee, yr family will all be labourers and waiting to be exported

True la those sporeans who commented adversely abt lau lee are idiots n shd be shot in the arse..usless bloody idots!Without lau lee u wld be squatting down to shit and have no tap water nor electricity

Anonymous said...

Yes, and cc is still squatting.
with alan or without.

Leave while you have time and youth on your side... stay and become old fart, get blamed for high cost and choked till you make a mistake and get kicked out... new ones will join and get conned.

Leave now.

Regret said...

Yes.Leave now.If you got no 1st class honours, can be property agent or insurance agents.If got no talent for that,then can work anything and survive on $1200 a month after cpf cut.This is a reality in the outside world as i am in the outside world now.

Anonymous said...

Yes, and cc is still squatting.
with alan or without.

Leave while you have time and youth on your side... stay and become old fart, get blamed for high cost and choked till you make a mistake and get kicked out... new ones will join and get conned.

Leave now.

Monday, November 30, 2009 5:08:00 PM

Maybe the person who post this can help all CC. Maybe he can give all CC who want to leave, jobs which pays $3800 after CPF deductions.Any comment my friend? Maybe you can give BT yr e-mail address, so we can ask you to help us get a job which pays minimum $3800 nett. Thank you.

boh tong said...

Why u guys like to talk cock huh?

Anonymous said...

Has any 1 done SGN flt? What does "2.5 times IFA payable towards the schedule flight time" means ah?

Does it mean only on total 4.05hrs only or the whole 14hrs?

Eddy said...

Does it mean only on total 4.05hrs only or the whole 14hrs?
it means whole tour of duty hours like 14+hrsX 2 1/2 times

Anonymous said...

So a SGN flt, IFA is 14 hrs x 2.5 x IFA rate. For a IFS is nearly $600, just to do a SGN flt. That's a lot.

Unionist said...

After all these years... tsk, tsk,
Cabin crew still unsure of IFA calculations, and definitions.
All interested in $$ but do not care about how it is derived, what are the origins and history.

Absolute apathy.
No wonder all afraid to leave.
Cannot survive outside of mummy's womb.

Find out about 'scheduled' flight time. What is the definition under the agreements with management.
Find out about 'rostered duty hours'

If you do not know, ask the people that you voted to represent you or the people that you have no choice but to agree with. Then we talk.
Otherwise we have to go back to basics everytime. Ask yourselves: why I do not know these definitions?

Its so infantile.

boh tong said...

ya lor ifs KLKK get so much ifa..*envy*

Anonymous said...

to lau tan
Anonymous said...
Yes.Wifout lau lee, yr family will all be labourers and waiting to be exported

True la those sporeans who commented adversely abt lau lee are idiots n shd be shot in the arse..usless bloody idots!Without lau lee u wld be squatting down to shit and have no tap water nor electricity

All you bloody old farts wake up your stupid ideas, face up to reality, keeping talking about those days, singaporeans are now the minority in our country, lau lee good?? you think he cares, his son makes 3 million a year and he 2.5 million a year, he's only interested in money.. we are what we are today becoz of ourselves!!

Pro-S'pore said...

All you bloody old farts wake up your stupid ideas, face up to reality, keeping talking about those days, singaporeans are now the minority in our country, lau lee good?? you think he cares, his son makes 3 million a year and he 2.5 million a year, he's only interested in money.. we are what we are today becoz of ourselves!!

Hahaha..Another Joker.If you are damn good why don't be a politician and maybe you can change our life for the better.Also would you like to work in factories, built the MRT/HDB in scorching hot sun.So we throw all the foreigners out, would you be willing to work. Maybe your children also can work as labourers. Talk is cheap. Election is coming, why don't you form a party and maybe make the changes. Afraid? Excuses?..Joker

Anonymous said...

To the Unionist:

Just Ans the qns straight. How much instead of lecturing. If u dun know just read & LOL.

Anonymous said...

He must an old fart la. Like to lecture & lecture as no body wants to talk to him especially at home. So just grab every opportunity to lecture & lecture.

So pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Hahaha..Another Joker.If you are damn good why don't be a politician and maybe you can change our life for the better.Also would you like to work in factories, built the MRT/HDB in scorching hot sun.So we throw all the foreigners out, would you be willing to work. Maybe your children also can work as labourers. Talk is cheap. Election is coming, why don't you form a party and maybe make the changes. Afraid? Excuses?..Joker

Pro-Sin, u are in fact the biggest joker of all, when did i ever talk about working in factories or the foreign labourers??
It's the highly paid "foreign talents" who are taking up jobs for our talented local people. well, when your kids grow up, you will know what i mean, maybe they will be working as labourers. NUS and NTU are full of indian and chinese on scholarships fully paid by our government. It's you jokers who keeps asking what the country can do for you, everything is about yr selfish self, what not you ask yrself what you can do for the country instead.. sigh...we kill each other everywhere jus like in cabin crew..

Anonymous said...

To the Anonymous:
Y do keep calling ppl "Joker"? Are u are a clown or what?

Does calling ppl joker boost ur ego? U reminds me of a A.. H... IFS name Henry L.. who loves to put ppl(especially the guys on his flt) down for what ever reason.

Ur point might be valid but calling ppl names really a turn off.

Anonymous said...

Vote for Alan Tan & Heart Party in the next coming election. They have work hard tirelessly & done well for cabin crew ever since they took office about 3 years ago.
Nothing is for free & union work is a thankless job.
Without passion, they would have run out of steam by now. No other past unions have come close to the present team where committment & dedication are concerned. Not forgetting also that Alan & his team got the guts, full of integrity & transparency to lead all of us for the next term..
I know a lot of hardwork was put in by Alan & his team at MOM to help bring back an ex IFS who was terminated recently, however he chose not to return bk to flying for personal reasons...
What i'm trying to say here is that Heart Party will go through thick & thin to fight for every crew to achieve fairness, etc.
With Alan Tan & his team to lead us again after next year's election, I'm very confident they will continue to serve us well with passion as what they have been doing consistently since they took over office in 2007 from the previous union..

Anonymous said...

Balls Carrier.

Anonymous said...

There is nothing a union can do to prevent/stop terminations.
It is the management's prerogative, and also the employee's.

All management has to do is to file charges of non-compliance to established procedures and the employee is dead meat. Unions can only try, behind the scene, to negotiate for a better deal. In most cases, they will fail as the charges are generic:

" Failed to follow procedure and therefore detrimental to the business of the company"

Employment Act does not cover this.
You can try to sue the company.. but prepare to be bankrupt.

Leave on your own steam.

Anonymous said...

vote allan and team,they are fighting amongst themselves.all power crazy,some don't deserve the recognition.let a new team take over,they have more ideas.

Anonymous said...

To the Anonymous wants us to vote for Alan & team: U can con the naive juniors even the stupid seniors to vote for u guys stating how hard working u are.

Be an effective unionist is not only about working hard, it's about how competent & result orientated u can achieved.

Go to MOM for an IFS to bring him back? Dun kid urself & try to fool us. U try so what's the result? U fail but u are good by telling the whole world u try but what is the result:NOTHING. Try for what where u cannot achieve it then brag about it. But I hv to say u are good by telling the whole world u try.

Like the SGN flt, u tell the whole world that 2.5 times is payable to Schedule flight time. I deliberately ask the qns stupidly to test how many ppl know how much is the payment. Not many ppl know. It's only 2.5 times of 4 hrs & 5 mins. No big deal la, it's not 14 hrs. U guys are good in promoting urself. At 1st I still tot u guys are doing a great job but now I know U are just taking us for a ride.

So sad.

Walk the Talk La said...

Yes.Let a new team come in and take over.But then again, who is the new team?It would be refreshing & nice to have new blood with new faces.But then again,who will come in to do the job?As for me, I am comfortable now - go to work, spend time with my family, run my business during my off days - instead of worrying about taking on the Management.So those out there, fresh faces, if you are not happy and willing to sacrifice your time, money, come in instead of being a commentator.It would be a blessing for Cabin Crew.If not, then I say just accept the present situation & life goes on.There are so many stirrers out there who excel in talking but who are not willing to do the job.

Best Job man! said...

Be a unionist? you kidding?

All are more interested in 2.5x and COF.. no time to look after other people's problems... thats why CC is fragmented and will always be.

Passion?.. you kidding?

Just follow the recommended and you will be ok. Mai keh khiang!

Leave the airline? you kidding?

Best job in the world man! just do your job, save your money, drink your wine, enjoy the gym and have as many friends as you like!

I dont know whats the problem with the rest... but life is great!

Anonymous said...

LG = Life's is Good

Anonymous said...

"..vote allan and team,they are fighting amongst themselves.all power crazy,some don't deserve the recognition.let a new team take over,they have more ideas.."

Yes..Yes..But then again, there is no new team, with new faces.Hope the new team can deliver what Allan had delivered.It will give Allan & his team to sit back, relax, & enjoy his flights as a crew and life goes on without Allan having to settle crew unhappiness on his off days.

Anonymous said...

It will be a good break for Alan & his Heart Party if the new team takes over the great job that Alan & his team has delivered.
There are many good guys in Alan's team & to be fair to them, they do deserve the break so that they can spend the off days with their families & also do what they had wanted to do but was unable to do so for past few years...

Anonymous said...

Well said. I hope the next team will give 110% dedication and commitment as shown by Allan & ever willing to make sacrifices in terms of $$ and time. Talk is cheap. Action prevails.

Anonymous said...

Well said. I hope the next team will give 110% dedication and commitment as shown by Allan & ever willing to make sacrifices in terms of $$ and time. Talk is cheap. Action prevails.

Anonymous said...

While it's interesting to read all the bickering (when one has the time).
Importantly, we always forget to count our blessing!