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Monday, 4 February 2013

She can't work for SIA anymore....why?



 By Anonymous   4/2/13



BT, I liked your blog very much and I have always imagined you being "on our Cabin Crew side". Like you could understand how and what we are going through. Unfortunately, I was wrong.


I am Ex crew (5years) and I left 1 year ago. I left because I could no longer work hard for a company like SQ. I felt that my morale is affected. SQ could no longer add value to my life anymore.


I felt that being cabin crew, I am being shortchanged by the company. We are the worst hit when it comes to cost cutting measures. Why should we be apologizing for old aircraft, why should we be apologizing for not enough meals/maincourses/newspapers, why are we being blamed when the pax get angry at the old CMIV? Yes, we might be paid for the job.


Cabin Crew should be deprived of having dignity and their rights? Is that what you trying to say?


Maybe you didn't understand the situation well enough, we are talking about MORALE. During 2008 H1N1, when Cabin Crew Management introduce MVC did the cabin crew complained? We know 2008 was a tough year, we took unpaid leave, long flights become standbys, we stood by SQ.


BT, FYI. We do work more than 18hrs. SIN/EWR is 1850hrs. How about 2 hrs reporting and 1/2 hr landing duties time? I worked 30hours on a EWR/SIN sector before because of AOG.


So, "SQ cabin crew does not work more than 18 hours in a stretch whereas some airlines work their crew till they almost drop dead." is FALSE. Every 345 flight, we all work till we almost drop dead.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stop_flight


Please look into the 1st and 2nd place of world longest non-stop flight. Both by SQ.


@Cheng Ho's Batchboy, you are wrong. Flying was way tougher..


I started out with a 50% paycut. Within 1 year, my pay now is now comparable to my last drawn pay as a FSS ($5000-$6000).


And fyi, I am not insurance agent or property agent.


Neither I am degree holder or have connections up the corporate ladder.


But working in the corporate world is way more rewarding. 


BT: The above is in response to my earlier post http://www.bohtong.org/2012/07/sq-cabin-crew-still-unhappy.html

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

wow what job is she working in the corporate world now? able to earn back average 5k within just 1 year is pretty impressive!

Anonymous said...

She is bull shitting cos she is sore with SQ

Anonymous said...

The A345 has dedicated cc who were paid 3x the normal ifa. They dont work nonstop but had undisturbed crew rest for as long as 4 to 5 hours on the flight. If not happy the complainant or the dedicated cc can opt out and fly the other aircraft types which do not make the crew fly for more than 18 hours. In a situation of AOG cc may step down so this big mouth ex fss is just trying to run SQ down.

Anonymous said...

Yup talk cock sing song.... fly 5 yrs complain so much. If you had been a crew 20 yrs ago then you'll know what hard work is and at half the salary you're talking about WITHOUT IFA. Those days including transit would be almost close to 14 hrs eg SIN/BKK/BAH. You're definately not suited for this job because part of the job is facing complaints that have nothing to do with you directly... Cheng Ho's batchboy

Anonymous said...

Anonymous5/2/13
The A345 has dedicated cc who were paid 3x the normal ifa. They dont work nonstop but had undisturbed crew rest for as long as 4 to 5 hours on the flight. If not happy the complainant or the dedicated cc can opt out and fly the other aircraft types which do not make the crew fly for more than 18 hours. In a situation of AOG cc may step down so this big mouth ex fss is just trying to run SQ down.
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My intention in bringing up the 345 fleet is NOT to discuss on my 3X IFA or the advantages/disadvantages of being a 345 crew, I just wanted to highlight the fact that we do work more 18hours on a regular basis and SQ is the only airline that allow the crew operate more than 18hrs according to world non stop flights ranking.

Well, according to the black and white shown on Aircrew Rosters from the reporting time to the off duty time. We do work more than 18hours. The crew rest is our entitlement/CAAS requirements to prevent crew from being fatigue and to make sure we remain alert at all times esp during take off and landing. And just in case you are not sure (unlikely), pilots have the final say to step down or not during AOG/flight time exceeds FTL. Because cabin crew are only allowed to step down 1 hour after cockpit crew have stepped down. In such scenarios, the CICs can ask the entire set to sign a petition (which chances are/or during my flights we are being discouraged because we will get calls from the company to investigate.) And because I am very JUNIOR, unlike yourself (possibly) I am not able to overwrite the ranking crew and voice out.

On a side note, if you genuinely feel that Crew Rest should not be accounted for the work/duty time, maybe you should write to the company that when you operate 12hrs-14hrs flight such as SIN/LHR or SFO/HKG your crew rest should not be accounted for your work/duty time so therefore you should not be entitled to the 2X IFA for the respective sectors.

I am sure SQ will be more than happy to deduct the 2X IFA from your 21st pay. Maybe you could win $200 voucher for staff ideas in action too. ;)

Thank you very much for the comment. You have proven me that leaving SQ was a right choice.

PS: Honestly, I do not have intentions to run SQ down. Why would I?

Any ex crew that have basic thinking&analyzing ability will have recognized the fact that our SQ working experience have proven that we have competitive advantage above all other job applicants/candidates. Because SQ is known as the World Renowned Airline. Maybe you are staying in the Airline forever so maybe it did not matter to you, but it is very important to crew that are ready for the better and more rewarding opportunities in the corporate world. Thank you once again.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous5/2/13
She is bull shitting cos she is sore with SQ
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Yes, you are absolutely right. I am sore with SQ, because I started out being very enthusiastic and passionate FSS. Not that I SOAR on all my flights, but I worked very hard and I never shortchanged my passengers during my 5 years of flying.
And at least, people that I flew with worked very hard onboard too. We felt that cost cutting measures are impacting on the service delivery and pax satisfaction. And of course, because the company shortchanged our pax and we have to apologize on their behalf.

That's part of the package. And because I didn't feel that our efforts are being appreciated, so I left.

As for the Bull-shitting part,
You could set up a fake email account so that I can email a copy of my payslip to you.

In Corporate world, you work hard you will be rewarded and appreciated.

In SQ, you work hard. You get countless CCDFs or Compliment letters. But it will not matter to them, you are still a Staff No.
Maybe just a number with a slightly thicker file.

Of course, if this is what you are looking for in life. That's awesome.

That makes us different.

Thank you for being different.







Anonymous said...

Maybe you had some difficulties understanding me.

Cheng Ho's Batchboy7/7/12
BT No point trying to convince those in CC now that its really tough working outside. Sooner or later the truth will hit home. Many Chances!!
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-That's why I said FLYING IS MORE TOUGH!-

And of course, you are absolutely right. I don't know what is like 20years ago and I don't really care.

Because in order to be successful in life, we have to look far and move forward with times & technology.

Just like I didn't care about what is it like being a Crew 20years ago, you do not need to care how to look far and move forward with times.

That makes us Different.

Thanks for making a difference. It make us stand out.

Back to if I were cut out being a Cabin Crew and to deal with complaints (that can totally be avoided due insufficient meals catered etc).

You are right. I am definitely not suitable. So I QUIT.

And what I really cannot face is not being appreciated for a company I stood up for and apologized for after facing the complaints. Because I have dignity.

But for all that matters, I thank SQ for training my patience and threshold dealing with difficult people. And if not for SQ, I wouldn't have realized the differences working in Good Company and SQ.


Anonymous said...

I tot she is working but how come she has lots of time writing numerous comments over here?

boh tong said...

When I said "SQ cabin crew does not work more than 18 hours in a stretch whereas some airlines work their crew till they almost drop dead" I meant SIA does not on a REGULAR basis roster cc to work such long hours like other airlines do. On the A345 it's a different matter altogether because the cc were dedicated crew on that fleet. Like someone rightly pointed out in the comment space cc could opt out of the fleet. But no one wanted to opt out because of the generous penalty payment.
My dear ex-stewardess I like to thank u for ur participation in my blog albeit they were all complaints. I wish u well and may u find full satisfaction in whatever u do. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

I have all the time to write all these because I have met my sales target for this half of the year.

Thank you for your concern.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the clarification BT. My apologies for misinterpreting your above statement.

This will be my last comment as I do not want to create further negative discussions on your blog.

I wish you the same and good luck too!

Anonymous said...

Yes you're absolutely right BT.... time will tell. Many chances.